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good afternoon, everyone. ayman mohyeldin in new york. the biden administration undertaking a nationwide effort to sell the $2 trillion covid relief package. kamala harris and her husband visiting a site. over an hour ago at the white house, president biden talked about the plan's impact and ahead of schedule efforts. >> over the next ten days, we will reach two goals, two giant goals. the first is 100 million shots in people's arms will have been completed in the next ten days. 100 million checks in people's pockets. >> this as a group of house republicans visit the southern border to highlight a surge in undocumented children showing up and putting the blame squarely on president biden. at this hour, the senate is back in session, poised to make history by confirming the
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interior secretary, making her the first native american secretary. all of this as two men accused of attacking capitol police officer brian sicknick who later died from his injuries with bear spray during the january 6th riot make their first court appearance later this afternoon. joining us, correspondent kara lee, covering the white house, and nbc correspondent garrett haake in el paso, texas. and the co-author of the political play book. great to have you with us. the president saying they're hitting their goals in the pandemic. then there's this. a new poll finds 30% say they will not get the vaccine, 47% of trump supporters say they will not get vaccinated. he was asked about that a short while ago. what does the biden administration plan to do about the hesitancy. >> look, they have been planning to do a broad national campaign, ayman, and meantime have been doing smaller, more targeted
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efforts to constituency that show high rate of vaccine hesitancy. when the president was asked about whether or not he thought it was useful to have former president trump try to convince americans to take the vaccine and be part of this effort that the administration is ramping up, he said he spoke to his staff about this and their conclusion was it is more likely local officials, doctors, and people, pastors and folks like that in the communities are going to be more effective than say the former president coming out and saying take the vaccine. worth noting president trump has come out and said people should take the vaccine. he did that during a gathering of conservatives in florida a few weeks ago, but at the same time he didn't participate in the national campaign that other former presidents have participated in that rolled out last week where they showed images of themselves getting the
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vaccine and said this is something that's safe and people should get that. president trump did not allow any official images of his own vaccination before he left office. look, this is an issue that the administration has to deal with. it is not just republicans. it is other constituencies, black communities, latino communities, rural communities, military families. so what we have seen so far is they are trying to target them individually with smaller campaigns and work from the ground up and then we're told is supposed to come in coming weeks is a broader national campaign designed to get people to take the vaccine. >> not to mention the former president continues to tout that he wants credit for the vaccine and you should never forget that while you get that, quote, beautiful shot. garrett, talk about immigration if we can. house republicans are attacking president biden over the surge in migrant children coming across the border in recent weeks saying the surge was prompted by his roll back of trump era immigration policies.
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what's happening where you are? >> reporter: well, the house republicans finished their tour and press conference. i had a chance to speak with minority leader kevin mccarthy at some length after that. there's a bit of a disconnect. two parties see the same problem here, that is a surge in unaccompanied minors. they're overwhelming border patrol, they're essentially staying in border patrol stations because hhs and now fema are not fully stood up to be able to care for these people in a more humane way. they've seen difference sets of cautions and solutions. republicans are trying to lay the crisis at the feet of the biden administration, saying it was the administration's decision to change policies like the remain in mexico policy, to lift title xlii, a policy preventing immigrants from coming into the country, now allowing unaccompanied children to come in. they're very different on prescriptions to this. house republicans, including mccarthy, talked about the importance of finishing the
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wall. when i pressed him what to do about people that are here right now, who are coming right now who won't be deterred by a wall or lack thereof, i will let you hear his answer. we talk on the other side. what's the solution for people showing up now in border patrol stations. i mean, should they be sent away to mexico? what do you do? >> i think you want to bring them. you have title 42, you're able to catch somebody coming across, you send them back into mexico. the problem is that isn't the only people that are coming. there are certain areas of mexico that are not taking them back, certain countries, haitians are not taking them back. that becomes a problem in the world of covid. >> reporter: again, we're seeing the same problems here. if you are a nine-year-old that walked here from honduras, dumped back does not solve the problem. again, the lack of concrete answer from leader mccarthy lays
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out what the problem is here. you're going to see more and more and more, many thousands now, perhaps more than 100,000 unaccompanied minors expected to show up at the u.s. border and finding a way for the asylum system to handle them in this country is going to be an enormous challenge no matter how you slice it. >> did you get a sense from leader mccarthy if he is willing to put resource, meet democrats halfway on resources needed to put up new facilities and deal with the undocumented migrants coming across the border? that would require approval from congress. >> reporter: i think that's possible but i think what you'll see is what we often see in this case, those kinds of reforms tied to border security elements democrats don't like. mccarthy in particular very much wants to see acknowledgment from the biden administration. there's a little semantics here. the biden administration to admit this is a crisis and that this does have some relation to biden administration policies. yes, there's room for negotiation there, whether
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that's a pill the biden administration and democratically controlled congress want to swallow is another question. >> we'll see what happens when everyone guess back to d.c. president biden not only feeling the squeeze from leader mccarthy and republicans, there are a group of house democrats led by minnesota congresswoman ilhan omar, pushing the biden administration to stop housing migrants in local prisons and jails. they put out a letter. conditions in municipal county and state jails and prisons contracting with i.c.e. to detain immigrants mirror the systemic abusings in privately operated immigration detention facilities, including medical neglect, long term use of solitary confinement, sexual assault, and lack of access to legal counsel. is this something the biden administration is considering, given the surge at the southern border we are seeing now? >> this is a politically thorny issue, whether it is biden's or
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trump's problem. as long as biden is president and we see the image at the border, some children still in cages, it is something they're going to have to take on. jen psaki today, press secretary, said they were left with a, quote, dismantled and unworkable system from the trump administration and that they're trying to rebuild it back. i see that as buying time to figure out how to house these people in a humane way. they moved some of the minors from the facilities jail like to kay bailey hutchinson center in texas, but this is a huge political crisis, a humanitarian crisis and political crisis. members of biden's party not just progressives saying that these people need to be treated more humanely, people like ilhan omar who has experience in a detention facility as a refugee when she entered the country.
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moderate democrats saying work on messaging to these countries saying yes, the immigration policies have changed, but we have to tell them that we need to stop the incentive to come to this country. and some of that is messaging and telling them listen, when you get to the border, there's going to be a problem. we need to do this the legal way, apply for asylum in your country. this is just a problem that will continue -- yes, he inherited it, but it will be biden's problem. i think the unworkable system that they inherited will only last so long. >> thanks to the three of you starting us off. joining me now, congressman from illinois from the house intelligence and oversite and reform committees. great to have you with us, as always. as we heard from our colleagues, it is definitely a problem that
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exists regardless who is to blame for it and exactly how we got here. how do you think president biden should deal with the border issue as you see it today? >> i think he is actually doing a good job in the sense that he is treating these people with the humanitarian approach they deserve. previously they were separated from their parents when they came as families or housed at the detention facilities which are really not appropriate for children and this time around he is taking them from detention facilities and putting them in other quarters, and also making it possible for local sponsors to provide housing for people, family members and others. long term, however, ayman, hhs has the responsibility to actually put these folks into better housing and that's going to be an issue we have to tackle in congress as well, to give
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them the resources to do that. >> i think a lot of concern has to do with timing and quantity of children, number of children in the current facilities as they are because the current facilities certainly are not being separated from families, everyone can acknowledge that, but as members of your party said in congress in the letter we read parts of, their conditions are still not adequate, not humane. >> well, we have to do better than that. we obviously need to provide the president with the resources to be able to do that. i think bringing fema in to provide for the temporary quarters is appropriate. however, we also have to do more. we have to test people, make sure that they are not somehow suffering from covid and treat them accordingly. we have to treat them as our own children, ayman. that is the real challenge that we have here that unfortunately the trump administration did not
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do and which really caused people to be so upset about how children were treated at the border. >> let me switch gears to covid relief. obviously your party in the white house, they're out trying to sell legislative achievements to the american people, right now with a variety of advertising campaigns, they're looking ahead to the 2022 elections. what do you say to critics that argue the bill falls short of what americans need, whether it is minimum wage, whether it is narrowing the gap of who is eligible for it by income took off about 8 million people receiving the full $1400. >> i respectfully disagree. my constituents have expressed on the whole satisfaction with the plan. i just got a nice letter from the local firefighters who basically said thanks to this
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ada fire engine that would be out of service because of tax revenue declines is now put back in service to do their jobs, don't have to cut public services or have tax hikes. i'm proud to have spearheaded a lot of local and state government aid and that will help as well tremendously. >> talk about january 6th. there were some developments. two men arrested and charged with assaulting police officer brian sicknick with bear spray. they're currently in court. authorities haven't determined if exposure caused his death. do you have any insight? what's your reaction to this development? >> i'm glad they were charged but i think the autopsy needs to be concluded expeditiously, and we need to frankly charge the other 800 people who stormed the capitol because we have to bring these people to justice to get past this episode. >> where does creation of a
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january 6th commission stand? >> i think speaker pelosi is working on this and i hope that it is modelled after the 9/11 commission which was a bipartisan or nonpartisan commission of nonelected officials, people everyone could respect and could come down with recommendations how to prevent this happening again. i hope they also talk about and study the problem of domestic violence extremism which until now has been ignored by the trump administration but now we have to take this very seriously. >> let me ask you about another subject coming up, has an impact on the way things operate in the senate, d.c. state hood. you serve on house oversight committee, that's an issue that comes up next week, whether d.c. should become a state. that's on monday. what is the likelihood this could happen? where do you stand on this?
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>> i strongly support it. i supported it each of the last two congresses. i believe it will pass in the house. i don't know how it will fare in the senate. it is appropriate. the license plate says no taxation without representation and these folks deserve representation, ayman. >> all right. always a pleasure. thank you so much for your time, sir. >> thank you so much, ayman. more than half of italy under lockdown as a third wave of covid infection sweeps across much of europe. we are live in rome, italy after the break. you're watching msnbc. g msnbc. does my aveeno® daily moisturizer really make my dry skin healthier in one day? - it's true jen. - really?! this nourishing prebiotic oat formula moisturizes to help prevent dry skin. - one day? - for real! wow! aveeno®. healthy. it's our nature.™ and for twice the moisture,
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an average of 2 million americans are being vaccinated per day. here are facts in the coronavirus pandemic as we know them this hour. the cdc director is addressing recent up tick. friday, airports were the busiest since march of 2020. with nearly 1.4 million people traveling. here is what dr. rochelle walensky said about that. >> i am pleading with you for the sake of our nation's health, these should be warning signs for all of us. cases climbed last spring, they climbed again in the summer, they will climb now if we stop taking precautions when we continue to get more and more people vaccinated. >> germany, france, italy are the latest to pause east of the
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oxford astra-zeneca vaccine after reports of blood clots. but astra-zeneca and european regulators say there's no evidence linking the shot to recent deaths in europe from blood clots. right now, most of italy is under a lockdown, the country attempts to curb a rise in cases spurred by a highly contagious variant. italian authorities announced during easter weekend the entire country will enter national lockdown. joining me from rome, italy, reporter claudia. how are italians responding to once again going into lockdown? >> reporter: hey, ayman. most of the people i spoke to today in the street, i will say they were feeling mix of resign and hopeful, resigned because they were expecting to be asked to go back into lockdown because in the last few days and weeks, we have seen a massive rise in the number of covid-19 cases across italy, including here in rome. they were expecting the government to lock them in their
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houses once again, but hopeful because of a couple of reasons. first of all, the government, new government just installed about three weeks ago has promised to boost the vaccination campaign. it has been lagging behind the uk and the u.s. not only italy, the whole of europe. the government is promising soon they'll vaccinate half a million people per day, and they promise to vaccinate 80% of italians by september. the second reason they're hopeful is that the warm season is about to come. we remember from last year that the heat also brings down the number of covid-19 cases to the point that last summer, italians were partying like it was 2019. combination of things, italians are saying i am willing to take this, make this sacrifice again but for the very last time. >> all right. thank you. joining me, dr. megan rainy,
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emergency physician. great to have you back on with us. appreciate your time. we heard from the reporter in italy as well as in germany that they announced their third wave of the pandemic if you will. do you think the u.s. is in better condition compared to u.n. countries or could we face a similar wave in weeks ahead. it seems we have been lagging behind europe over the course of the pandemic. how do you see it play out? >> it is a little of both. we are in a better place than europe in that we have 10% of americans fully vaccinated, around 25% of american adults have gotten first shot of vaccine. that's an order of magnitude, greater than the percentage of italians vaccinated. only 3% got a shot in arm. that will protect us. the vaccines protect against that variant that's taking italy by storm.
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a little bit of hope, we know states across the country, including my home state of rhode island are loosening restrictions perhaps faster than the data supports. we all want to be out doing things, you need to be masked. indoor dining remains dangerous. if we're not universally masked, we face another surge in the united states while we ramp up vaccinations here, even the great numbers in the u.s., we're not at herd immunity yet. >> what do you think is the reason behind officials wanting to open up quicker than what data suggests. yes, i get that vaccines are on the up tick, number is plateaued, weather is getting warmer, maybe getting ahead of it, let people be out and about. how do you explain why they're opening quickly? >> i think we are fatigued. it has been a long year. hit the one year mark. people are tired of staying home. numbers are dropping, it is safe to get out and about.
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in the northeast, it is getting sunny and warm, not today, but in general warmer the past couple of weeks, people are feeling that spring fever. politicians want to listen. get business open and give people something to be hopeful for. the thing those of us on the public health side are asking for is open carefully, slowly, keep on the masks, hold on longer. biden/harris saying vaccines in arms by may, that's not that much longer. it could save us from spread of the novel variants. >> dr. fauci addressed a little of that today. let me play what he had to say. watch this. >> more of a concern that i have, chuck, is that we'll have what's called variant increases. we may have another surge. if you look at the numbers that have gone down, they've gone down so nicely in a steep decline, but the last couple of weeks we had a plateauing of infections. the thing that concerns me because history proves i should
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be concerned is that when you get a plateau at a level around 60,000 new infections per day, there's always a risk of another surge. >> dr. fauci yesterday on "meet the press." do you share the same concerns as we start to see spring break under way in parts of the country? >> i absolutely do, not just spring break but states across the country having much greater difficulty getting large percentages of the population vaccinated. we are in the race against time. let's remember that the current level of infections and deaths is similar to what we saw last summer in the surge. we are not fully out of the woods. now, good news is people fully vaccinated can spend time with friends and family also vaccinated. as spring comes, we can spend time outdoors. not going to have to be locked in the house forever. we need to do it safely and prioritize the right things, get kids in school rather than bars reopened as a first step.
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>> let me ask you about astra-zeneca. reuters reports results of astra-zeneca's 30,000 covid-19 vaccine trial is being reviewed by independent monitors to see whether it was safe and effective. this as a number of european countries suspend use of the vaccine because of concerns about blood clots. what do you anticipate from the review, do you think it will eventually be approved in the u.s.? what do you make of the development with astra-zeneca in general? >> i should say, i haven't seen the trial data myself. rates of blood clots reported in europe that led to countries halting use of the astra-zeneca vaccine are really no higher than the normal population level of blood clots. i find it a little baffling that so many countries pulled the astra-zeneca vaccine off the shelves. i am glad we are doing independent review. that's the right thing when there are safety concerns. too early to say whether this will change likelihood of approving it in this country,
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but right now, it doesn't matter. we have enough vaccines for every adult by mid may. >> thank you for your insights. coming up. breaking news on the whereabouts of imprisoned critic alexei navalny, what he is saying about the conditions at the camp he is currently held. live on the ground in russia after the break. after the break. mm. [ clicks tongue ] i don't know. i think they look good, man. mm, smooth. uh, they are a little tight. like, too tight? might just need to break 'em in a little bit.
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we are following breaking developments in russia. putin critic alexi no val knee saying he is held in a camp calling it a real concentration camp. joining me from moscow, matt vodner. what more do we know? >> reporter: thank you, ayman. everything we know at this point comes from that instagram of navalny. he is cut off from the outside world as far as we know and is only able to communicate through letters presumably given to his
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lawyers. basically paints a picture of what we have come to expect, to understand of this particular colony outside moscow. it is very isolated, strict information flows. and in the past, had incidents of violence from prison guards. this is something that he addressed. he hasn't seen violence. you can see the evidence of it in the behavior of his fellow inmates. very strong sense of discipline. people afraid to turn their heads without authorization, cameras everywhere. it is 1984 brought to life. he describes it as a concentration camp. one concerning part of the letter is that he saidesque treated to sleep deprivation
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tactics. we don't know exactly how many days he has been there. he is woken every hour because he is deemed a flight risk. he has somebody wake him up every hour. unclear how long that will continue. i think the point to focus on is the information isolation. something that navalny has been hit with since he entered custody, but it increased as he has gotten further in the system. so part of the reason they have chosen this colony is probably for that. the point here is not just to deprive navalny supporters from their car is mat i can leader but deprive him of a sense of support. he is facing an isolation breakdown situation. >> thanks for staying on top of this. we'll follow the developments. tune in tomorrow, i speak live
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with his chief of staff, volkov tomorrow on the program. today, the tenth anniversary of the syrian upracing, they describe the challenges faced by the refugees that now live in jordan. that uprising led to full blown civil war. hundreds of thousands of impacts are felt today. we have more from northeastern syria. >> reporter: hi. we have been in the country a week now. what a devastating effect ten years of conflict had on this country. half the country displaced, many across europe. this is a conflict, consequences stretched well beyond its borders. the heaviest of fighting and
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brutality may have calmed somewhat, this is still a country utterly broken by this decade of war. you see international powers vying for control in the northeast of the country. it is probably the only place in the world you'll see the american military and russians brushing alongside one another. further south, iranian militia are operating. there are pockets of so-called islamic state terrorism from the islamic state, a real fear across parts of the country. the human cost is absolutely devastating. behind that, the multiple legacies of the war in this country will endure for many, many years to come. >> no doubt. mark stone in east syria for us. thank you. up next, breaking news. the first court appearances for two men arrested and charged with assaulting capitol police
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subway eat fresh. but not jayson's sub. we are following breaking news in the investigation into the january 6th riot. two men arrested and charged with assaulting capitol police officer brian sicknick with bear spray are in court. the suspects were arrested yesterday, according to criminal complaints. at this time authorities haven't determined whether exposure to chemical spray caused officer sicknick's death. joining me, tom winter. what more do we know about individuals arrested, how were they ultimately identified? >> following common themes, tipsters and body camera worn by officers involved in the incidents of the capitol riots january 6th were key to the
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investigation. you and i talked about that often, that they have been helpful in figuring out who they were. the fbi put out photos the last several weeks. tips rolled in. couple things out of this. you see the person on the right was holding that cannister. according to charging documents, he said give me that bear expletive, referring to possibly bear spray, a chemical irritant stronger than pepper spray. officers that were injured, obviously officer brian sicknick, somebody that died later on, as well as two other officers that were incapacitated at least 20 minutes after being sprayed with this. these are some images coming forward. we'll see what happens when both men, i wouldn't be surprised if they are detained pending trial. obviously concerning charges. we have to wait and hear from the medical examiner if they can link that death specifically to the chemical irritant.
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if so, it is possible the charges could be elevated or increased. >> tom, another development that we are learning about. there's another hearing under way for a guy that's charged in connection with the capitol riots. i believe recent court filing said a family member called the fbi in late december of 2020 about him. what more do we know? >> this came in conjunction with the hearing. it is a detention hearing. prosecutors there can kind of provide more details than maybe they will go in the charging documents. one of the things they talk about is a call in late december last year, 2020, leading up to obviously the incidents of january 6th. family member said, quote, that he was going to do serious damage related to federal legislatures in washington, d.c. what we don't know from the filing is whether the threat was specific to january 6th, and the second thing, what did the fbi
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do or did not do as a result of getting that information and that call, but obviously this is somebody that was a concerning person, should have been a concerning person to law enforcement, somebody that's been identified as part of the 3%ers in texas, a militia, and family members recorded him after he came back. he threatened his own children. apparently told his wife if the children turned him in, they would be traitors, and, quote, traitors get shot. a separate conversation recorded he said he would put a bullet through the phone of his daughter if in fact she was recording his conversations or posted them on social media so this is somebody that the feds definitely want to keep in custody pending trial. you're looking at him on screen. he is from wiley, texas. more on this to come. but it does raise questions, this case and the case of brian sicknick. we don't have a lot of answers on who knew what and when and don't have answers from the
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capitol police on the medical examiner's report and specifics about the death and we're going to get transparency into that. that may help fuel calls for independent investigation, 9/11 style commission. we have to see if that's something that comes up. >> incredible. tom winter, thanks for being on top of that. appreciate it. new york governor cuomo appeared in public this afternoon, did not address accusations of inappropriate behavior and sexual harassment, and while a growing number of new york democratic lawmakers are calling for the governor to step down, a new sienna college poll shows half of new york voters say cuomo should not immediately resign. new report from "the washington post" says cuomo's vaccine czar phoned county officials to gauge support for the embattled governor. he said he made calls as a long time friend of the governor and did not discuss vaccines. cuomo's office says any
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suggestion he was acting unethically is patently false. joining me, correspondent kathy park. good to have you with us. let's talk a little about these. moments ago we got new word from one of cuomo's accusers' lawyers, deborah katz. she spoke to investigators this afternoon, provided a lot of records. what more do we know about that? >> reporter: hey there, ayman, that's right. this is just coming in. so the attorney representing one of the accusers, charlotte bennett, she came forward to cbs news with allegations of sexual harassment levels against the governor. and the attorney representing charlotte said that they met with investigators for four hours today via zoom, and handed over about 120 pages of documents corroborating the
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sexual harassment allegations. it appears that the investigation is moving forward, at least on the ag front. you mention larry schwartz. that was also flagged to the ag's office by an anonymous county executive, according to "the washington post." larry schwartz, vaccine czar, made several calls to county executives across the state to gauge where their loyalties lie with the governor. this is something that the attorney representing governor cuomo said he did nothing wrong. larry has been working tirelessly for the people of new york. a lot of developments in the past couple of hours, ayman. >> against the backdrop is a poll we reference in which 50% of new yorkers or new york voters to be specific say they don't want to see governor cuomo resign immediately. how is that playing out.
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>> reporter: this poll, what's interesting is that it was conducted last week from the 8th to the 12th. that overlapped with growing calls for him to resign from several members of his own party. i want to tick through some of the results that seem to be notable. when they were asked, can cuomo effectively do his job as governor despite investigations, 48% responded yes, 34% said no. meanwhile when they were asked has cuomo committed sexual harassment, 35% answered yes. 24% no. 41% undecided. and then lastly, they were asked are you satisfied with the way cuomo addressed allegations. 57% yes, 32% no. and what's interesting, ayman, governor cuomo doesn't shy away from the spotlight, but kept a
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low profile. he was in albany for the weekend, spotted briefly walking the grounds of the executive mansion. friday, toured another mass vaccination site, did not address ongoing crisis that continues to surround him, ayman. >> kathy park live in albany. thank you. deb haaland is hours from making history as the first native american to serve as cabinet secretary. what people in her home state of new mexico say about the significance of her confirmation. return to normal at the capitol. police plan to take down some fencing put up after the january 6th attack. you're watching msnbc. h attack you're watching msnbc. goes beyond just soothing sensitive skin? exactly jen! calm + restore oat gel is formulated with prebiotic oat. and strengthens skin's moisture barrier. uh! i love it! aveeno® healthy. it's our nature.™ antibacterial or moisturizing body wash? definitely moisturizer! antibacterial can i have both?
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because out here, you can't fake a job well done. hear renae's story at welcome back. you are looking at live pictures from las vegas. vice president kamala harris accompanied by the attorney general of las vegas with an order there it looks like after she toured a vaccination site earlier today. she's touring the culinary academy in las vegas speaking to essential workers, some workers you see there in the restaurant business. we'll continue to monitor that for you. bring you any news from that event. history making vote will take place in senate. they're expecting to confirm deb holland making her the first-ever native american
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cabinet member and would fill a few remaining positions in the biden administration and represent a major win for progressives on capitol hill. joining me now vaughn hilliard live in new mexico and leeann caldwell. help us understand the historical significance of what this means back in new mexico and across the country. >> reporter: that vote is slated to take place, this final confirmation vote at 5:30 eastern time by the senate, 3:30 here in albuquerque. right now every democrat including joe manchin indicated that they will support the nomination as well as two republicans lisa murkowski and susan collins meaning tonight the u.s. government should have its first native american cabinet secretary.
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this is significant here because you can't mark this vote without noting the centuries of history here that have led to this moment because that very government which is about to install a native american into the executive branch cabinet for the first time ever that is the same government that oversaw the execution of thousands of indigenous individuals and the displacement of hundreds of thousands more and the forced cultural assimilation here and why deb holland saying that he spent the summers growing up with her grand parents 40 miles from here on the reservation where she watched her father man the corn fields there saying that's where she grew respect for the conservation of water and the natural resources from earth but there's more than 5 million individuals here in the united states today considering themselves american indian or alaskan natives and significant
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here looking at a leader here in the u.s. government. >> for natives peoples, this is a moment that's transformational because i grew up my entire life and for most of my daughter's life who's 20 not seeing ourselves reflected in our elected leadership, in governmentings in the federal government, in tv, film, across every sector of society we aren't often reflected and to finally see that we're going to have not only the first native american secretary of interior but the first cabinet member and at that several of government and to really be seen, to be heard. >> reporter: now the interior department which oversees relations with the 574 indian nations here in the united states will have a native american woman at the helm to
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lead that organization. >> all right. leeann, let's talk about another big story developing on capitol hill, the capitol police issuing a memo to congress i believe scaling back fencing and national guard presence. what more can you tell us? >> reporter: that's right. so according to the capitol police they say that there is not a credible security threat that justifies the fencing and told all somebodies of congress and staffs to reduce the footprint of that fencing over the next couple weeks and that fencing is still going to rehman. they also say to reduce the number of national guard but did not give a special number or to be completely going home. this morning i did see a lot of national guard, much different from last week and january 7th but this is a big political issue on capitol hill with republicans blaming speaker pelosi or wanting the fences.
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she's repeatedly said that it is up to the law enforcement officials to decide and they have spoken given one more update on to what security is looking like, the fences are still going to remain up for the time being. >> all right. thanks to the both of you for wrapping up this hour for me. see you tomorrow at 3:00 p.m. "deadline white house" starts after this quick break. every hair on the first stroke. so you're ready for the day with a fresh face for a fresh start. for a limited time get a 5th cartridge free. plant-based surfactants like the ones in seventh generation detergent trap stains at the molecular level and flush them away. it's just science! just... science. seventh generation tackles stains. did you know that 70% of the soils on your clothes are invisible? try new tide pods hygienic clean heavy duty.
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hi there, everyone. it is 4:00 in the east. pretty soon getting a vaccine won't be a matter of navigating a website or waiting for a particular age group to be eligible in the state. pretty soon whether or not you get a vaccine that will not only protect you from severe illness or death and reduce transmission of a virus that brought the whole world to a halt could come down to which political tribe you associate with. alarming new data suggests that trump voters, white male supporters of the former president are turning down the vaccine in troubling numbers. while 38 million people are fully vaccinated, that's 11.5% of the u.s. population with 71 million americans having received at least one dose, a new poll reveals that 30% of americans still say they won't get vaccinated when they have the chance. that number is made up of 49% of republican men.


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